X- Plane 10 is available

[Andreas Heusner]

A long time we've to wait for this moment. But now X-Plane 10 is available. There's a free download to test it on

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[Bernhard Harb]

I already tested the demo but unfortunately it is definitely tooo hingry regarding the necessary hardware. I have an iMac with an 3,4 Ghz i7, 12 Gb Ram and the AMD HD6970 with 2 Gb VRam. Even with that PC I only get frames between 5 and 20 in KSEA on medium to low settings!

Therefore I hope for big improvements in further subversions, because at the moment I gonna stay with V9 even V10 has already been ordered.

Cheers,
Bernhard.

 

[Szymon Kurzacz]

From DEVs blog about low FPS:

I am still trying to dig out my in-box this morning, but Chris tells me that
there is a lot of concern over X-Plane 10′s framerate. For now I can only offer
one bit of advice:

Don’t panic.

I have no doubt that many users are seeing terrible fps with version 10. But I
think that we’re going to get this sorted out over the next few weeks and the
end result will be really good.

How can I think that when so many users are seeing poor performance? Here’s why…

* With X-Plane 9, four years after its debut, you /still/ can’t run X-Plane 9
at extreme objects on a modern computer.
* With X-Plane 10, all of 1 day old, with very little performance ,i can run
at extreme objects on my core i5 and get > 20 fps in the demo area.

In other words, the hardware usage of v9 was never properly “fit” to the
capabilities of a modern desktop. By comparison, version 10 is at least on the
right curve, and we know how to tune for performance.

Please bear with me for a few days: the current state of chaos in our server
download farm is a high priority right now, as are a few serious bugs. So if
you send me a list of your hardware specs, settings, and some numbers, I
/cannot/ help you.

When I do have time to look at performance (hopefully real soon) here’s how we
will do it:

* I will post some standard fps-test command lines that you and other users
can try.
* You can send me back the log.

One I have that data, /controlled/ for all rendering settings, across a variety
of hardware, then we’ll be able to understand performance and fix engine bugs
and provide work-arounds.

X-Plane 10 is only fast if it hits the fast path through the driver every time
it needs to; there are all sorts of little things that can go wrong that can
kill fps that are not an indication that long-term the sim will suck. We have
worked through nasty performance issues before and we will again! It took two
months to kill off the very last driver problem in X-Plane 9.0 – I certainly
hope it won’t take that long to get the vast majority of users running well in
version 10. But I do believe that fps problems we see now may be as much a case
of driver vs. engine quirks than a fundamental performance gap.

And other one about figuring what is causing low FPS and few tricks that may help to run smooth...

For those who cannot wait to try to get X-Plane 10 to run fast, a few tips on
how to ‘break down’ where a bottleneck might be:

* Run with clouds vs. clear skies. The clouds chew fill rate. Are clouds the
issue?
* Turn down visibility – X-Plane 10 will run at 100 nm but some machines will
die with this. Does a low visibility help?
* Turn off the AI planes. Any better? They take draw time when on screen and
cores.
* Turn down texture res if you haven’t already. (Well, most people try that
by default.) Start with low settings and work your way up.
* Try areas away from KSEA. Compare down-town to rural, and different airports.
* If you have an nvidia card before the 400 series, try running with
–no_instancing from the command-line. This can particularly help Mac users.

In most cases there is only /one /setting killing your framerate – find it, fix
it, and things get a lot better…fix it and you’ll find those other settings you
turned down can go up at least a bit.

The gotchas in v10 are definitely different from v9. Shadows can kill your fps
in a huge way – I’ll be spending a bunch of time tuning them to look better and
kill fps less. Turn water reflections down if you don’t need them – the
“advanced” setting is frankly a bit pointless. Turn off full screen
anti-aliasing if you are going to run in HDR mode, then restart the sim.

I'm downloading demo right now, but it looks like more than a day from finishing (low transfer rate)...

 

[Szymon Kurzacz]

First demo beta works quite fine with my comp in mid-low detail settings... I wish i can have more cash for better hardware + few more $ for getting xpl10

 

[Zeljko Budovic]

is there anyone here who is satisfied with X-Plane 10 performance?

I tried demo version and it's seem's to be very good simulator, but i can't get more then 19 fps with minimal settings, and for X-Plane you must have 30-50fps.

I have about 50 fps with X-Plane 9 and Jrollon CRJ-200.

Some tips would be appreciated.

Zeljko

 

[Ricardo Rementería Troncoso]

It works fine in my configuration (see my signature), but - of course - X-Plane 9.70 works faster. Since version 10.04 beta 3, I only use XP10. Yesterday, I was flying from East Timor to Phuket and in Indonesie I came in very bad weather. It was terrifying, really. My right engine got fire, I loosed 10.000 ft and the control of my old B734. It wasn't nice with all those sounds and lights. I needed some minutes to get calm, but finally I could handle it. I've got the airport of Phuket. It was my first experience with bad weather in X-Plane 10 (really impressive and realistic). If you want to see what it's possible and what not, you can fly with me (as a passenger) using Skype and the option Screen Sharing. It works fine (XP10 and Skype). 8)

PS.- My username in Skype = "RemenNL"

 

[Zeljko Budovic]

It works fine in my configuration (see my signature), but - of course - X-Plane 9.70 works faster.

Thanks, I'll try to configure some visibility settings, i know in XPL 9 that is very important for performance. If your's CPU is not overclocked - i think my CPU should be work fine too, dual core at 2.53 GHz.

Since version 10.04 beta 3, I only use XP10.

i have demo, first version. Did you get improved performance after updates?

If you want to see what it's possible and what not, you can fly with me (as a passenger) using Skype and the option Screen Sharing. It works fine (XP10 and Skype). 8)

Thanks for offer, should we try when i have more time. I know about xpl10, but i'm curios how it work's with skype

 

[Ricardo Rementería Troncoso]

If your's CPU is not overclocked - i think my CPU should be work fine too, dual core at 2.53 GHz.

We (users of Apple's computers) normally do not change the configuration of the original computer, thus it's NOT overclocked.
BE CAREFUL !!! I am using my wife's computer (iMac i5) to fly with X-Plane 10, because my MacBook Pro 2,8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 8 GB memory was too weak for. I don't know if you can easy compare the hardware of an Apple-computer with a Windows-computer. Anyway there are reports of X-Plane users about the performance of X-Plane on a Mac and a Windows-machine, with the so-to-speak identical hardware capabilities, and X-Plane on a Mac worked faster (FPS).

Did you get improved performance after updates?

SURE. I've tried older beta's. My conclusion was always the same: unusable. The only version "usable" was 10.04 beta 3 (until now).

 

[Zeljko Budovic]

ok then, I must wait for the end of this month to download updates, my internet connection is very slow right now for that, and i have limited internet traffic I recently moved, and i don't have internet in the new home (yet).

Thanks

 

[Zeljko Budovic]

What a surprise! I recived my router from vodafone this morning, via DHL. So right now i have very fast internet and i'm playing around with X-Plane 10 settings. It's wonderful. My fps are ok, 40-50 with defaul aircrafts, and 30fps with jrollon CRJ!

 

[Frederic Leger]

Re: X- Plane 10 is (nearly) available

Hi all,
The final release of X-Plane in Europe will be gone next week. Because some factory problems.
See you in the sky ... soon.
Frederic.