[POLL] Lose points while inactive?

[Andrew Williams]

I mentioned the '

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' topic to Peter about decreasing points for inactivity as mentioned by 'Barthe Hogenboom', and he asked me to set up a quick poll to see what our members thought about the idea of losing points while inactive.

This is just a poll in principal, not actually working out all of the parameters needed (ability to pause account manually when away, how many points to lose, how long before the points start decreasing etc) as this can be worked out later if the vote shows that losing points is what people want.

I've set the poll to run for 30 days, and you can change your vote once you have voted if you wish

 

[Fabrizio Pascucci]

Why punish instead of rewarding I will never understand this behave.
Give water to the one that have thirsty.

 

[Barthe Hogenboom]

Why punish instead of rewarding I will never understand this behave.
Give water to the one that have thirsty.

It's not punishment. Punishment would be when ACH kicked out members after a short time of inactivity or would ask them to write a personal e-mail to be admitted again(I've seen VAs do this).

If you keep flying you'll soon be Senior Captain...and what's there to achieve after that...nothing, only meaningless points. While losing points, only when you're inactive, keeps you competitive and a bit more hooked to the game.

You should see it as a "health indicator" for your career. What would a real airline do with a Senior Captain that hasn't flown for months? I think send him/her to a refresher course.

And for those who are afraid to lose points: an option would be to exclude the Basic career from losing points. This way the free& friendly image of ACH is more guarded. And it would mean pilots could regain their points without having to fly small aircraft. But then there should be a difference in point wages for flights in different careers or pilots would just temporarily switch careers without any consequence. Oh, and make switching career to a lower one cost a small amount of points to complete the circle.

 

[Fabrizio Pascucci]

It's not punishment. Punishment would be when ACH kicked out members after a short time of inactivity or would ask them to write a personal e-mail to be admitted again(I've seen VAs do this).

This is not a punishment this is the end.
I remember once, I was in a Fedex VA I had to do a flight per month, then one day they organized a Fedex fly inn which I did.
I thought that this event could count as a requirement for the month.
One day I try to log and my account but was deleted I wrote for explanation, the answer was that I didn't meet the requirement flight per month of course there was prove that I did the flight in vatsim. The admin told me that If I would come back I had to start from scratch. you know what I said goodbye to Fedex.

The only way to keep people in a VA is to organize a social event, doing test and check knowledge of the airframe see what skill they have and promote them for good participation.
It takes tremendous work and many people don't have.
Airchild it's well organized, the website is incredible with future and the admin is really nice, only the social part could be expanded like have rewarding event and so on.
But I am not going to pretend more then what is already a really a great situation, unfortunately family duty is really hard.

 

[Barthe Hogenboom]

This is not a punishment this is the end.
I remember once, I was in a Fedex VA I had to do a flight per month, then one day they organized a Fedex fly inn which I did.
I thought that this event could count as a requirement for the month.
One day I try to log and my account but was deleted I wrote for explanation, the answer was that I didn't meet the requirement flight per month of course there was prove that I did the flight in vatsim. The admin told me that If I would come back I had to start from scratch. you know what I said goodbye to Fedex.

I don't think ACH will ever do these sort of things. It seems Fedex VA has worse working conditions than Ryan an Buffalo Air together. :lol:

I don't want ACH to become like work, just to make the "game" a bit more exciting. It might be a good idea to keep Basic career as it is, especially for pilots with little spare time. In the current situation there's hardly any difference between the careers. This way Basic career could really function as a place where anyone can fly without restrictions while the other careers add excitement and more realism.

 

[David Higdon]

Personally I really don't care about points or rank. I don't think of this hobby as a game. I think of it as flight simulation. Big difference. The incentive we have to fly is already built in the Airchild concept. We fly for the children . That,and the passion we have for aviation. Just a little food for thought.

 

[Barthe Hogenboom]

Personally I really don't care about points or rank.

I don't lose sleep over them too. But it's nice to see some sort of indication of progress. And in the end points and rank decide what planes you can fly in advanced career. One more reason not to change Basic career; pilots who don't care about points or rank probably also don't care about career type. When they stay in Basic career they can fly all types and aren't affected in any way by this.

The incentive we have to fly is already built in the Airchild concept. We fly for the children . That,and the passion we have for aviation.

I agree. But this is about the incentive to fly more. And more flights results in (a little)more money from the sponsors. Some also care about the discounts which are also tied to points/rank if I remember correctly. It might not work for everybody but I noticed some pilots really care about their points. :devil:

I don't think of this hobby as a game. I think of it as flight simulation.

I think of my hobby as both simulation and a game at the same time. I noticed this is different for everybody. You could see points as a simulation of the pilot's payment. Or..just ignore them.

I don't want to start a general mutiny or riot with my feature idea ; I'm sue it can be implemented in a way which keeps most pilots happy when it's agreed upon. If it causes too much trouble then it should just be dropped and I'll use the idea later on in some other project. I'm just always busy thinking about alterations for games and simulations.